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Ser questrian's avatar

No.

Country of origin is better for preventing welfare use in the long run.

Immigrants from less assimilatory cultures will bring hostile ethnocentrism. Such as medhi Hassan, and zohran madami. They make it their life's goal to maximise hostile immigration and extract maximally from the commons.

Welfare use spirals out of control when clannish groups (like Somalians) with bad cultures aggregate together and become an extractive group - and the more successful members of their group can serve as their defenders in the legal system or political system.

If you want to bring people with less aligned ethnocentrism, then they must never be given citizenship as in the UAE

Alex Martelli's avatar

Excellent article, enough to convince me to subscribe. I do wonder if there are effects (probably minor ones) based on the taxonomy centered exclusively on achieving a green card vs other key points in the process of moving to the US -- based on my own experience. I first came here in 2005 (from my native Italy, so, Southern Europe) with a O-1 Visa, i.e., as an "Individual with Extraordinary Ability or Achievement"; this is not all that frequent, and, per se, would no doubt tend to qualify my arrival as "employment-based".

However, I had also married an American citizen in 2003 (we lived in Italy for a while); when I decided to ask for a green card (since O-1 is a temporary visa), my immigration lawyer strongly suggested relying on my marriage rather than my achievements, since, based on her long experience dealing with immigration for us Silicon Valley professionals, it was likely to be a smoother, faster, less-effort pathway. So, technically, my green card was family-based, not employment-based!

After that, naturalization requires 5+ years of lawful permanent residence, "good moral character" (?!), and passing reasonably-easy tests about English fluency and "civics" (the latter including history questions of dubious importance or relevance, but that's another issue) -- nothing to do with family or employment (unless those criteria affect the nebulous "good moral character" issue?) so not meaningful for your regression.

I think similar experiences are not all that rare (based in part with chatting with neighbors and friends here in Silicon Valley) -- O-1 visas are rare, but other temporary employment visas, such as H-1 B, are not; and while many employers are happy to sponsor H-1 B visas and the like, it is much rarer for employers to sponsor green card applications (and I believe there is no such thing as a "sponsor" for naturalization, years after you've obtained a green card). I

Immigrants who were already married to a citizen are probably few, but ones who marry a citizen after coming in with a H-1 B &c, I think, not so rare. So, there might be quite a few of us who are classified as "family based" (due to our green card) but are de facto really employment based -- first coming in via a temporary worker visa, later getting a green card via our marriage to a citizen, rather than based on our employment, just because it's a smoother, faster, cheaper way. I wonder...!

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